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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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when we were children our parents told

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler join me as i

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examine

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unexplained creatures strange

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio

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i am your host lon strickler and i thank

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here on the paranormal king radio

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network

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now uh before i introduce my guest i

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uh a counter account i recently received

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the eyewitness states i first got

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went to matamoros mexico to see his

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i was just looking around and i glanced

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and as i looked there was like a crowd

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but one man stood out his face looked

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so weird it was like he had no eyes it

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like his eyes were just black and i'm

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something isn't right and it was you

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know they were staring at me the car

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i couldn't see them anymore but next

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i felt so sick that i thought i was

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all of a sudden i feel sick and he said

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you know him and his parents thought

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maybe it was the heat

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because i had lived in alaska for three

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trying to hurry up get me back to

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and instead they took me home they took

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me into a cold dark bedroom

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because i just don't believe in this

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stuff i mean i'm not

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very superstitious but she went and got

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she took that egg and rubbed it over my

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body and was whispering something

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but all i know is what i saw in mexico

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now you know this account of people

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johnson uh in an encounter him and jack

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we'll talk about that but uh it's it's

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an unusual phenomena so i'd be

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is humanoid ufo researcher and author

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albert s rosales albert was born in cuba

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he witnessed several unusual incidents

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became interested in unusual phenomena

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humanoids and other worldly entities

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encounters from worldwide sources

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corrected daily

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most recent book

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ufos over florida humanoids and other

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strange encounters in the sunshine state

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alberts humanoid database can now be

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found at www.iraap.com

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rosales this is the website for the

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researchers association for anomalous

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website so albert thank you for joining

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me

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been a while since we've talked

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many of your compiled reports of

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phantoms of monsters over the years

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can you tell us a little bit about your

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earliest personal counters or settings

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five or six i looked up and there was a

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man in the mirror looking at me

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looked behind me there was nobody there

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beard and some kind of helmet like you

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wear like conquistador type of helmet

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hypnotic regression done to me but

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mexico that's pretty creepy

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those uh black eye encounters uh those

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warly do you think they're like

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some type of alien influence

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black-eyed kids they're some type of

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hybrids well that's possible as well

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i've been thinking about that maybe

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i don't know well you know i uh i'm

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some some black-eyed kid uh

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our black-eyed bean okay yeah

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that we experience as far as humanoid

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is is alien related

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why i've been reporting on them for

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connection with those as well

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i talking about the winged humanoids uh

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i was looking up and this is back in

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and and it was like 1935 good friday

287
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they say and being very superstitious

288
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everybody was staying home

289
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and the kids that didn't allow the kids

290
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to go out but one of the

291
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the children a girl went over to uh to

292
00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:38,079
the river to there was like

293
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some mango trees there and then she

294
00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:42,000
wanted to collect some mangoes

295
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she was warned not to do it because like

296
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i said like

297
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again it was a good friday and you're

298
00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:50,079
not you were not supposed to go out

299
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on that day for some reason and

300
00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:55,519
she went she was young maybe eight or

301
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nine and all this

302
00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:59,920
they they they missed her and uh they

303
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heard screams and

304
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they ran out the uncles and the father

305
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and she was being carried by like a

306
00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,240
creature

307
00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:10,800
this is they said well that described

308
00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:11,440
the creature

309
00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:14,800
was like tall black in color

310
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with huge wings

311
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and his thing he seemed to have claws

312
00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:21,920
and it was carrying the girl

313
00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:25,120
and now the men approached it and it's

314
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you know hit the creature with a steak

315
00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:29,920
or other you know they threw rocks at it

316
00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:32,720
and and it dropped the girl thank god it

317
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dropped her

318
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and it disappeared they say towards the

319
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river

320
00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:39,200
they don't know if it flew away or it

321
00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,519
would go it went into the river that

322
00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:43,920
but it is a very intriguing report this

323
00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:46,720
is i'm talking about 1935 you know right

324
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i think that these these creatures have

325
00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:51,279
been around with with us for a long time

326
00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:53,200
oh i think they have as well i mean you

327
00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:54,800
know when we were doing the reports in

328
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chicago

329
00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:00,720
we also received several older reports

330
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and uh you know it kind of gave us a

331
00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:06,000
basis as to what people

332
00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:08,000
have been seeing in the area well of

333
00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:10,000
course up and around chicago illinois

334
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and all that it's

335
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there have been lots of thunderbird

336
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sightings and

337
00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:17,360
pterosaurs and all kinds of things so

338
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you know

339
00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:19,920
flying phenomena is unusual for up or

340
00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:21,760
even ufos so

341
00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:25,120
um you know you were talking about uh

342
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florida i uh and of course that's your

343
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:29,200
home state

344
00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:32,480
i i was receiving well there were three

345
00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:35,680
sightings in pasco county

346
00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:37,760
during the same time that we had the uh

347
00:13:42,069 --> 00:13:40,000
phenomena going on in chicago

348
00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:42,079
pascal that's up in north florida was

349
00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:43,279
there like fl uh

350
00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:45,279
you flying humanoid in county yeah they

351
00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:47,199
were they were and all three were in the

352
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zephyr hills area

353
00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:52,480
and uh the witness described something

354
00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:54,160
very similar to what they've been seeing

355
00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,480
and we're seeing in chicago the uh

356
00:13:59,829 --> 00:13:59,040
five to six foot in height on the body a

357
00:14:03,750 --> 00:13:59,839
thin body

358
00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:03,760
dark in color uh some are shiny looking

359
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,160
and the wingspan

360
00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:10,240
bat like wings with the wingspan of

361
00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:12,480
anywhere from 10 to 12 foot

362
00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:15,199
and now those individuals two of the

363
00:14:21,509 --> 00:14:18,000
sightings were along the highway

364
00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:21,519
and uh they were supposing by

365
00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:25,120
late night delivery people and

366
00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:28,240
in both interest instances

367
00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:31,760
they saw a pile of deer

368
00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:35,040
on the ground near this thing so

369
00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:37,040
i i'm quite sure this thing was either

370
00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:38,959
killing these deer

371
00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:42,000
and what it was doing with it nobody saw

372
00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:44,399
it eating anything but

373
00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,560
that that was an unusual aspect to this

374
00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,639
story

375
00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:51,040
well yeah maybe maybe that's they're

376
00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:51,920
like some

377
00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:55,199
their predator and that's why they

378
00:15:01,910 --> 00:14:58,480
well hopefully they don't go uh

379
00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:01,920
going i mean humans yeah right

380
00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:04,959
but there's a case here in

381
00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:07,920
miami and talking about you know heavily

382
00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:09,279
populated

383
00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,639
back in 1994 you know i i'm going to

384
00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:14,160
retire this year but i've been working

385
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:15,440
for the police department as a

386
00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:16,800
dispatcher for right

387
00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:19,920
almost 35 years but anyway uh

388
00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:24,800
we received a call 9-1-1 an older lady

389
00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:27,839
she sounded very frightened and i

390
00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:30,160
asked her uh i didn't take the call but

391
00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:32,079
the person that took a call asked her

392
00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:34,560
what was what was the problem she said

393
00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:35,920
she looked in the

394
00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:38,959
in the backyard and

395
00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:41,600
uh she saw what next to like she had a

396
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:42,399
fruit tree

397
00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:45,839
maybe it was a mango tree also

398
00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:48,959
a tall dark winged man

399
00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:52,320
she said it was like it's

400
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,959
that he stuck from behind the tree and

401
00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:56,720
glided towards the side of the house

402
00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:59,279
it like glided right over the ground and

403
00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:00,800
then he had wings he didn't move the

404
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:02,800
wings he just glided over

405
00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:06,160
uh she attempted to get a closer view

406
00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:07,759
uh by looking out the window by the time

407
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:09,920
she did that the figure had already uh

408
00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,920
banished now her her take of the

409
00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:15,360
the incident was that it was some kind

410
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:17,040
of demonic

411
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,160
you know manifestation

412
00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:22,720
so i don't know i i tend not to uh go

413
00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:25,199
into that

414
00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,680
yeah i mean you know this is something

415
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:29,360
we've been trying to figure out

416
00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,560
um you know i i don't know if you knew

417
00:16:36,230 --> 00:16:34,399
but two of these sightings that we had

418
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:36,240
received over the years

419
00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:38,240
the the being actually disappeared just

420
00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:39,759
like it was um

421
00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:42,720
going through a uh through a doorway or

422
00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:43,920
a gateway

423
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:46,240
right a portal maybe you know yeah and

424
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,240
you know i i kind of start believing

425
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:50,000
that this is uh

426
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,560
this may be some type of uh

427
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:54,720
inter-dimensional type being

428
00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:56,160
and you know you know you know the

429
00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:57,759
mothman sighting

430
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,959
it's up in uh if in point pleasant back

431
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,880
in the 60s i

432
00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:04,799
i have always thought that that was an

433
00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:07,600
interdimensional type being

434
00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:11,520
you know i i think so too and and

435
00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:14,880
he also said that for somehow there was

436
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,079
there was a portal was open either

437
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:21,360
intentionally or accidentally i don't

438
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,240
know but

439
00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:24,720
this theory was also advanced uh when

440
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:25,360
they had a

441
00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:28,400
uh a rational sightings in chile

442
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:31,679
back in the early 2000s 2008

443
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,760
and there was like incredible amount of

444
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:35,520
incidents uh

445
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:38,160
winged humanoids other type of i don't

446
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,039
know and

447
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:42,000
the late uh berelio sanchez osago that

448
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:43,760
he visited chile

449
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:46,080
said that there was people that had seen

450
00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:46,960
some kind of like

451
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,160
portal type open and and they're right

452
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,840
around the area where the incidents were

453
00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,280
taking place

454
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:56,160
you know you know i've forgotten all

455
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,400
about that because i know i i did post a

456
00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:00,320
series of reports that you had sent me

457
00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:01,440
years ago

458
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,320
about all the sightings in chile and uh

459
00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:06,160
i had completely forgotten about that

460
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,919
but you're right there were a lot of

461
00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:09,919
different sightings

462
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:13,120
yeah it was i i've

463
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:14,799
completely forgot about that that's

464
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,160
bizarre

465
00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:17,679
yeah and all of a sudden they stopped

466
00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:20,720
around maybe excuse me 2003

467
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:24,640
right they begun they began 1999

468
00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:28,080
and it was like hundreds of encounters

469
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:31,679
too many of them to you know excuse me

470
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:34,000
yeah somebody the uh you know some of

471
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:35,520
the anomalous humanoid

472
00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:38,240
sightings that some of the weirdest ones

473
00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:40,160
do come from down south america

474
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:42,640
i mean you know you've proven that

475
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:43,200
because you

476
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,919
you get reports worldwide but yeah i

477
00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,679
mean between chilean and

478
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,000
and argentina and brazil there just

479
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,080
seemed to be a lot of weird

480
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:54,720
humanoid settings it seems like

481
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:55,440
especially

482
00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:57,440
argentina it's like every year they get

483
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:59,360
they just got one in january it wasn't a

484
00:19:03,430 --> 00:18:59,840
wing

485
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:03,440
anything like that but it was is what we

486
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,039
call one of the tall nordic

487
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:08,000
type beans yeah i don't know if you read

488
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:08,880
it

489
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,160
side of the road there were about four

490
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:14,160
witnesses in a vehicle

491
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,960
and he sort of glided off to the side of

492
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:18,799
the road it was a tall man-like

493
00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,960
er kind of way wearing one of those uh

494
00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:25,120
form-fitting suits maybe like blue in

495
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:26,160
color kind of

496
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:30,160
he had kind of a glow to him very tall

497
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,919
and it disappeared off to the side of

498
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,440
the road into an embankment

499
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,200
but this was just happened in january

500
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,120
this year yeah yeah

501
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,760
i have to look for that uh you could

502
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:40,799
find it in

503
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:43,840
an explicator okay yeah

504
00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:47,120
look it up there uh uh argentina and

505
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:48,640
humanoid you'll find it

506
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:52,640
yeah that's scott corral's yeah

507
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,120
he gets a lot of reports from down in

508
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:57,280
south america and other parts of

509
00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:00,480
latin america um he does a really good

510
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:01,760
job about ufo

511
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:04,720
and uh humanoid sightings yeah it's

512
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:06,400
interesting um

513
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,559
about it being a worldwide phenomenon i

514
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,240
you know i know of all the sightings

515
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,000
that you received

516
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:15,520
from the the former uh ussr and other

517
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,480
areas that were behind the iron curtain

518
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:20,640
and um

519
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,000
it's interesting when you know when

520
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,039
the cold war ended and all these reports

521
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:29,440
started coming out of there

522
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:32,640
uh it was some very interesting stuff

523
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,559
it was from 89 to

524
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:39,600
let's say 1980 1989

525
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:42,960
through 1997 perhaps 98

526
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,159
there was a yes non-stop activity oh

527
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,679
that region a lot of it you know

528
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:49,440
documented by

529
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:52,000
but you know uh researchers there and

530
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:52,559
they were

531
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:55,600
you know not just there were like there

532
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:56,159
were nowhere

533
00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,679
they know where what they were doing

534
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:59,440
there's a there's a whole bunch of books

535
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,480
and uh

536
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,840
but you know of course they're all in

537
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,000
russian

538
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,480
it's really hard to translate the uh

539
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,000
talking about um

540
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,320
you know the former former eastern

541
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:12,320
europe countries

542
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,240
i somebody just sent me a a case

543
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:19,440
which is really bizarre uh

544
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:20,799
i'll send it to you maybe you could

545
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,400
include it i'm gonna send you some cases

546
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,679
anyway maybe i'll be good

547
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,760
great books okay i haven't been able to

548
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,840
do that in a while but i will

549
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,720
this case uh it was sent to me by a

550
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:31,919
researcher from the

551
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:36,000
czech republic his name is vladimir

552
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,440
siska he runs a group over there that

553
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:41,919
it's called project project glow this is

554
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:42,480
the

555
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:46,960
collect reports of encounters

556
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,559
ufos humanoid and and i was re i was

557
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,159
going through their website and i

558
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,400
i saw a brief mention of a case here

559
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:56,480
that interests me so i contacted him and

560
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,000
he sent me a a

561
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,039
brief summary and it's kind of

562
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,880
really strange i i don't know what to

563
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:04,480
make of it this is it happened back in

564
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:05,280
93

565
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:08,240
may 19 middle of the afternoon in a

566
00:22:11,149 --> 00:22:09,120
place called

567
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,159
babisi i don't know how to pronounce it

568
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:13,600
b-a-b-i-c

569
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:16,320
this is an old older lady uh sick about

570
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:17,520
68 years old she

571
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:20,240
she decided to take a walk around her

572
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:21,679
neighborhood

573
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:24,080
and she was walking near a cemetery near

574
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:25,200
her home

575
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:26,880
and all of a sudden about she noticed

576
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,679
about 50 meters away from her a strange

577
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,480
figure that was like walking towards her

578
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,080
she got closer to it and she

579
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,640
she described it as a looking like a

580
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,000
girl

581
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:41,360
maybe 17 or 18 years old beautiful

582
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,880
blonde hair

583
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,960
and this is the weird one of the weird

584
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,120
part her head was encased

585
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:50,080
in what appeared to be a a glass ball or

586
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,520
sphere

587
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:53,840
okay covered completely her eyes were

588
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:54,880
large

589
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,000
black and round they appeared they

590
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:59,760
didn't according to the lady they didn't

591
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,919
appear to have a any lid

592
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,039
you know eyelids or or whites

593
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,559
they would be just black you know like

594
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,240
the black eyed kid

595
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:11,039
and then and she was dressed in a blue

596
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,320
outfit

597
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:14,320
that cover all the way down her the

598
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:15,679
middle of her

599
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:18,880
thighs and her she didn't see

600
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,640
her arms they were either hidden or

601
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:22,080
maybe she didn't have any she wasn't

602
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,120
sure

603
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:25,520
the color of the the legs were blue gray

604
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:26,320
in color

605
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,600
the skin and this is another weird part

606
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,400
and they're the feet ended in what

607
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:34,320
appeared to be hoobs

608
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:37,679
you know like wow go and and when she

609
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:38,559
walked this

610
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,559
entity she she over the you know asphalt

611
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:45,120
and she moved she made a lot the loud

612
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,240
you know

613
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,559
creaking sound it was like dragging her

614
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,200
her feet she passed by the witness by

615
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:52,400
the lady

616
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:55,600
and what as she did two two small white

617
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,320
dots

618
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:59,039
suddenly appearing in the eyes one in

619
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,159
each eye

620
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,799
and they moved like if they were looking

621
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:04,320
at the witness

622
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,880
the witness screamed and she

623
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,559
she got behind the figure and watched it

624
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:11,919
walk away

625
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:15,200
about 25 meters away this is another

626
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:15,679
weird

627
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:18,080
part of the story the figures suddenly

628
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,360
sh rose

629
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:20,880
and shot up up in the air and

630
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:24,320
disappeared at a very high speed

631
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:27,360
now wow and you know this is

632
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:30,960
we're talking about a black eye entity

633
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:34,320
flying humanoid i don't know

634
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,360
but this is the really weird taste well

635
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:38,400
you know

636
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,520
the the wing humanoids

637
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,480
that i have been noticing over the years

638
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:47,919
how they just suddenly

639
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,679
jettison from a standing position

640
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,919
up into the air without flapping wings

641
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,200
or not flapping the wings

642
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:58,000
right yeah and you know they the people

643
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,840
see them

644
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,840
flying or base of your guarding without

645
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,520
flapping the wings as well

646
00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:05,600
is that they have other some other means

647
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:07,000
of uh

648
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:09,679
acceleration it's it's a really strange

649
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:10,880
phenomena

650
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,000
um i mean they're definitely not

651
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,000
indigenous they're not of this earth

652
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,000
plane there's there's just no way

653
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:20,960
it could it could be no it's got to be

654
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:21,520
some

655
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,559
related or

656
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:29,120
i don't know i mean but that is that is

657
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,159
bizarre

658
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,320
you know i i have received a lot of

659
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:33,919
weird sightings

660
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,159
in eastern europe i really have and you

661
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:38,480
know there there does seem to be a lot

662
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:39,919
of humanoid research

663
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:42,799
in in like you said the czech republic

664
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:43,200
yeah

665
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,679
uh a couple other places is really hard

666
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:50,720
to find anything

667
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,880
like i think in my database i only have

668
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,120
two cases from albania

669
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:00,159
right right so i don't

670
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,720
you know it you know you would think

671
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:04,400
that if more and more people came

672
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,440
forward

673
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:07,840
in these countries it would you know it

674
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:09,520
would be pretty astounding of what we

675
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,880
get

676
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:12,960
uh but i guess it's just like anything

677
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:20,950
can you hear me

678
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:35,430
i must have lost albert oh

679
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:38,390
well there you go then there you go with

680
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,039
skype

681
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,240
unfortunately we've got a problem here

682
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:45,279
so uh hopefully we can get him back i

683
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,240
don't know if that's going to be the

684
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,760
case or not but

685
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,919
you know skype does have its issues

686
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:51,440
sometimes

687
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,789
so i don't know what we're going to do i

688
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,240
guess i can keep on going

689
00:27:01,269 --> 00:27:00,400
can you hear me albert i hear you know

690
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,279
yeah what happened

691
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:03,520
okay well i don't know you know how

692
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:04,880
skype is it's it's

693
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:08,480
pretty freaky sometimes the men in black

694
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:12,880
there you go there you go so um

695
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,000
you have your database now

696
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,000
on the independent researchers

697
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:19,679
association anomalous

698
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,919
phenomena can you kind of tell us about

699
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:23,919
that group

700
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:26,960
you know i wasn't i was it was years ago

701
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:27,279
i

702
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,000
towards the

703
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,720
beginning of the 90s when i started

704
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:36,799
distributing cases

705
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:41,120
i i i you know i sent my databases group

706
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,679
now this

707
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,039
i don't think that they're active

708
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,799
anymore

709
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,760
and what i have in that database is the

710
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,440
old database which

711
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,200
you know is nothing compared to what i

712
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:52,480
have now

713
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:55,600
but i i had most of my database in the

714
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,679
ufo info site and unfortunately the

715
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,240
the webmaster there has his wife passed

716
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,880
all of a sudden and he stopped uh

717
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,559
he stopped doing anything everything

718
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,080
anything there plus i

719
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,240
i started doing my books and my

720
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:12,399
publisher didn't want me to

721
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:15,679
you know have all those cases

722
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:18,880
on the on the on the ufo info site

723
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,600
but anyway the main reason that uh that

724
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,440
i stopped doing that because

725
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:26,080
he's you know the the owner of the sites

726
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:26,480
uh

727
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:30,559
stopped any activity right so

728
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:33,679
i'm planning hope when i retired to have

729
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:34,720
a database

730
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:38,799
you know as online hopefully accessible

731
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:42,159
well i hope you do because uh you

732
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,080
you had i i considered the the

733
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,679
most absolute sight for humanoid type

734
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:52,720
sightings it was uh i mean everything

735
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,440
was there

736
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,279
and i know you did right start writing

737
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:56,960
the books and start putting

738
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,240
those sightings in your book and uh

739
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:02,320
you know it was always someplace i could

740
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:03,600
go to to uh

741
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:06,640
check up yeah and do any reference work

742
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,360
because

743
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,919
um you know you can count on me and i'll

744
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:10,960
be sending you

745
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,320
more cases uh okay

746
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:16,720
maybe absolutely yeah i mean i

747
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,200
appreciate that i know when um

748
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,279
i know when i was in the middle of this

749
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,080
the chicago settings you had sent

750
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,120
you sent a lot of reports of

751
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:29,919
strange activity in the chicago area

752
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:30,559
right

753
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:33,440
and uh there you know there's a lot

754
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:34,000
there to

755
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,480
so um so did you um

756
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,480
you know since you're in florida what

757
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,480
are your your favorite most famous

758
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,159
uh favorite reports out of your home

759
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:50,320
state

760
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:53,520
yeah the one of my favorite ones is the

761
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,559
flynn encounter in the everglades

762
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:59,039
back in 65. i don't know if you heard of

763
00:30:03,669 --> 00:29:59,679
that one

764
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:03,679
no he was hunting and uh

765
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:07,039
and uh what was the name

766
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:10,480
and the cyprus uh preserve i understand

767
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:12,640
i know you're talking about

768
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,240
mayaka no well

769
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,640
it's not as south of there it's not my

770
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,080
icon this is cyprus

771
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:23,120
in the west side of west coast okay

772
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:26,000
near naples florida oh okay in that area

773
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:27,440
there so he came up on a

774
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:30,960
a a huge optic on the on on the ground

775
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,520
it was like he said it was huge and they

776
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,520
had rows of windows lighted lighter

777
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,720
windows

778
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,799
so he went he went to approach it and he

779
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,240
got hit all of a sudden a

780
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,720
beano light from the craft struck him

781
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,000
right in the head

782
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,640
knocked him out he thinks he must have

783
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,240
been unconscious for a while because he

784
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:50,559
got up and the object was gone

785
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,080
and he had he he suffered from

786
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,440
um eye injuries and all for a while

787
00:31:01,509 --> 00:31:00,080
he was he was recently interviewed

788
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:01,519
because i think he still he was still

789
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,399
alive and he was really interesting case

790
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,320
uh you know he might have been abducted

791
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,039
that we never did find out for sure

792
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,440
but that's one of the most interesting

793
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,960
cases here in florida there's

794
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:15,039
there's been many i just heard you think

795
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:16,559
of one you know

796
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:23,110
coast guard base in north florida there

797
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:23,679
were

798
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:27,279
radar visual cases and uh

799
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,159
near the uh ocala area and uh

800
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:34,720
there were huge uh objects seen in the

801
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:35,519
woods this is

802
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,600
done in 75. the scoutmaster incident

803
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:41,360
back in 1952

804
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,679
absolutely everglades yep yeah in palm

805
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,440
beach yeah

806
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:47,519
that's a there's a whole bunch i i hear

807
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:50,080
them locally i have talked to a lot of

808
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,440
witnesses

809
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,679
mostly from the east everglades area

810
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:55,279
there's a lot of weird stuff going on

811
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,720
over there

812
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,159
but i was going to ask you something

813
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:00,799
what what do you make of the um

814
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,000
this uh pterodactyl sighting so

815
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,440
that type of bird what what are these

816
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,440
air source sightings yeah the

817
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,760
pterodactyl you know this is something

818
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:11,200
that we have

819
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:14,320
been getting for many years now you know

820
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:14,880
jc

821
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,600
johnson used to tell me about a lot of

822
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:18,960
the sightings

823
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,080
that he used to get and in fact

824
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:25,120
he um he swore that there was a

825
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:29,519
flyway coming up from mexico

826
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:32,799
into the united states um

827
00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:35,919
he actually believed that they migrated

828
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,200
you know uh during the year into yeah

829
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,519
into the united states

830
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,559
i don't know you know the most

831
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,960
interesting sighting the old and older

832
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,159
setting

833
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,640
and this was from chad lewis when he

834
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,320
wrote the book the uh

835
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,279
the van meter visitor and uh that being

836
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:56,960
was a um

837
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:00,559
was a pterodactyl-type being uh

838
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,320
in iowa i saw the the drawing of that

839
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:06,240
is yeah and it looked just like a

840
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:07,519
pterosaur so

841
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:12,640
you know this this pterosaur phenomena

842
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,200
i mean it it's a nationwide people have

843
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,360
seen these things nationwide

844
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,760
whoa i think worldwide too remember i

845
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:20,480
still

846
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:23,600
i sent you a case from poland right and

847
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:26,000
and there's been cases in spain

848
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,360
and puerto rico that i know of and maybe

849
00:33:33,509 --> 00:33:31,120
other places

850
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:33,519
i don't know i don't know how to really

851
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:34,159
define

852
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,000
what it is uh i are the indigenous

853
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:41,120
speech i don't know are they a relic you

854
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:41,840
know

855
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:46,159
things also be coming

856
00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,760
uh from an interdimensional you know

857
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,919
through a portal of some type some

858
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:53,200
people

859
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:56,799
that

860
00:34:02,710 --> 00:33:59,840
they're like time slips right

861
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:02,720
they're they're somehow transported to

862
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:04,320
to our time

863
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:06,399
from back in their time and then they go

864
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:08,000
back you know it's really hard to

865
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,079
phantom well you know but

866
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:15,119
you know the sightings of uh prehistoric

867
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,119
type beings i mean you know

868
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:19,119
is not unusual you know i've gotten

869
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:20,320
these

870
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:26,960
t-rex type b uh beings in south texas

871
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,280
for

872
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:30,159
many many years uh this is something

873
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:30,800
that ken

874
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,440
gerhart has looked into for a long time

875
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,599
and you know jc also had a lot of those

876
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:37,119
sightings as well

877
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:40,720
out there in the four corners so

878
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,320
what they are exactly i mean who knows

879
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:47,119
i i had one incident here in the east

880
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,839
everglades

881
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:50,159
again i spoke to the witness over the

882
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:50,960
phone i

883
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,560
he never did want to meet me in person

884
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:54,960
but he was out fishing and

885
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:57,440
and with his son his son looked over the

886
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:58,720
to the uh

887
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,599
to the the woods the type of the high

888
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,400
grass and

889
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,040
he said dad there's a dinosaur and he

890
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:08,560
looked and he said he looked like a

891
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,839
like a biped dinosaur green or

892
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:14,079
standing there not too big but he all

893
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:14,880
suddenly just

894
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,480
took off running and and and this is

895
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,640
you know it kind of i thought it was

896
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:22,079
very weird i never had another one like

897
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,800
that

898
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:25,200
yeah well you know these uh these

899
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:26,079
prehistoric

900
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,280
type animals are beings uh

901
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,599
they haven't seen for many many years

902
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:35,200
and in fact

903
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,200
i know of uh i know several settings

904
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:40,880
that were

905
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:47,839
full-size t-rex beings

906
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,040
now full-size full-size

907
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,599
and uh i don't know what people were

908
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,359
looking at out there

909
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,200
but there were more than one sighting

910
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,760
and uh

911
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,599
some of the colors of these things were

912
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:04,480
like like a reddish brown

913
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,040
to a greenish color and uh

914
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:11,760
you know the situation i mean where

915
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:13,280
people saw these things

916
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,760
were it was kind of bizarre i mean but

917
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:20,880
you know the cryptid world

918
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:23,920
is just so strange i mean you know

919
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:27,040
you know we have even had and i reported

920
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:27,760
on these

921
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:31,040
uh these

922
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:34,240
calf man have horse type beings as well

923
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,800
like uh

924
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,960
centaurs centaurs yeah that's uh

925
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,400
fascinating cases

926
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:41,520
oh and you know it's you know leonard

927
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,920
dan

928
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:45,119
who he was a uh was a relative of

929
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:49,119
jc and uh is a as a tribal elder

930
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:52,560
out in the de navajo uh

931
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:56,079
reservation in uh arizona and

932
00:37:02,790 --> 00:36:59,520
new mexico right he had he had

933
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,800
talked about these centaur uh

934
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,359
encounters for many many years and in

935
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:06,640
fact he had

936
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,160
drawn sketches of these things and it

937
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:13,040
looks just like a half man happy a half

938
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,160
horse

939
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,160
it was most bizarre thing you'd ever

940
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:18,160
think of but uh

941
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:20,160
you know when he and i had talked about

942
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,280
it he

943
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:24,400
was you know he was really serious about

944
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:24,640
it

945
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,359
uh so well the reports are there and uh

946
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:32,160
yeah they are there i mean is this a

947
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,359
type of

948
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:35,760
i mean is it just a manifestation or

949
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:36,400
these things

950
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,800
really live out there i did an article

951
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:39,920
years ago

952
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:43,920
about centaurs in north america and uh

953
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,960
it's just not concentrated in the desert

954
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,240
southwest

955
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,560
there were sightings in michigan in the

956
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:52,640
upper midwest

957
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,800
you know several years ago and um

958
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:58,720
who would think you know who would think

959
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,000
something like that

960
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:02,800
i think uh linda gottfried documented a

961
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,160
couple of those also

962
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:07,119
is that right yeah and her website i

963
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,520
believe

964
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,720
and then and they were like from uh

965
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:13,040
i think in the midwest yeah a couple of

966
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:13,839
yeah

967
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,880
that's bizarre and i know of uh also in

968
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,960
several encounters and send that centaur

969
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:20,000
type beans

970
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,079
from the uk liverpool area another

971
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:27,599
yeah wow fascinating

972
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,720
it is fascinating those are similar to

973
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:31,200
the

974
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:44,839
uk

975
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,000
yeah you know yeah when when you really

976
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,680
sit down and start thinking about these

977
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,960
things

978
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,800
you got you know the first thing comes

979
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,119
your mind is well

980
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,599
is there a parallel world of some type

981
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,119
that's kind of overlapping you know

982
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:00,880
we've talked for years

983
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:03,440
about the the thinning of the veil and

984
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:04,560
uh

985
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,599
where you know these beings from other

986
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,280
worlds

987
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:11,440
may actually be able to come into our

988
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,240
world and vice versa

989
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:16,640
so you know i don't know how true that

990
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,440
is

991
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:20,720
it does seem that as time goes by and

992
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,400
you get more and more of these reports

993
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,560
uh you got to figure something's going

994
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,079
on i mean you know

995
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:30,000
i think i well that's what i think i

996
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:31,520
think there's

997
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,359
many other realms or dimensions

998
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,359
around us that we don't know about and

999
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:39,839
sometimes there's

1000
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,280
for some reason there's an opening

1001
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:46,079
and whoever's there gets to come over

1002
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,359
here and visit us

1003
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,760
for a while and i think some of the

1004
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:51,119
disappearances that

1005
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,880
we know about of people maybe that's

1006
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,240
what happened to them maybe they somehow

1007
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:56,400
walked into another dimension well you

1008
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,200
know that's been a

1009
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,240
theory yeah yeah

1010
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,800
you know these off these missing four

1011
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,200
one one reports that um

1012
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:06,960
yeah david pilates has been

1013
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,200
investigating for a couple years now of

1014
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:11,680
course he's written the books

1015
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,800
there are a lot of those those incidents

1016
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:17,440
especially in these national parks

1017
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,079
a lot yeah it's so much so that it's

1018
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,480
it's kind of scary i mean i don't know

1019
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,079
if be honest with you

1020
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,920
i don't know if i'd even want to go into

1021
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,280
a national park

1022
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,160
or out in the middle of nowhere anymore

1023
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:34,079
like i used to when i was younger

1024
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:38,880
i wouldn't go by myself that's for sure

1025
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,480
i mean you know the first thing you

1026
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:42,560
think of when you hear about something

1027
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:43,760
like that is

1028
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,480
well maybe there's a bigfoot abducting

1029
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:47,920
people or

1030
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,599
but it happens so quickly it is almost

1031
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,119
like somebody walks through

1032
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,000
a portal of some type and just suddenly

1033
00:41:02,470 --> 00:40:58,240
vanishes

1034
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:02,480
yeah so you know the fact that

1035
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,079
these people don't return

1036
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,640
uh i mean are they being abducted you

1037
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,480
know i look and i've looked into that

1038
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,480
theory as well

1039
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,119
that may be the case but i i really

1040
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:17,599
doubt it i kind of believe

1041
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,960
that there is uh there are instances

1042
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,480
where

1043
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,480
people can just be at the wrong place at

1044
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,040
the wrong time and just

1045
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,680
walk in through one of these uh these

1046
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,040
portals and

1047
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,520
just suddenly vanish yeah but a lot of

1048
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:35,359
these cases also they

1049
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:38,880
the body's found uh dead

1050
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,599
uh completely in the same area that

1051
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,359
where they've been searching

1052
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,119
and he talks about that he talks about

1053
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,880
why didn't they find the body

1054
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,200
before and all the sudden the body

1055
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,640
appears and

1056
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,359
the shoes are missing and it's kind of a

1057
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,440
bunch of weird circumstances uh

1058
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,280
well yeah that's like that todd sees

1059
00:42:04,150 --> 00:41:59,200
case that butch and i have been

1060
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,470
this this happened in in northumberland

1061
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:07,839
pennsylvania

1062
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,960
back in 2002 and this guy

1063
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,880
goes up on the top of the ridge early

1064
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,079
morning

1065
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:17,040
doesn't come back they're out looking

1066
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:18,880
for him

1067
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,560
uh i mean there's like 125

1068
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:25,119
you know so people in a large search

1069
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:25,920
around

1070
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:31,280
nobody sees anything there's no sign of

1071
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:32,480
this guy

1072
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:37,440
uh but 36 hours later

1073
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,720
they find his body near the pond which

1074
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,040
is just outside the house

1075
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:46,079
i mean just it just shows up suddenly

1076
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:47,119
appears there

1077
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,200
yeah so was it a bad abduction

1078
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:53,760
or did this guy just drop through a

1079
00:42:59,309 --> 00:42:56,000
portal somewhere you know

1080
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,319
even though with that case there were

1081
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:01,119
eyewitnesses

1082
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,200
of uh a ufo a large ufo

1083
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:07,359
above the power line at the top at the

1084
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:08,319
ridge

1085
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,160
and that's where this this into where

1086
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:12,000
todd seeds was supposedly been

1087
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:15,920
at uh two of the fishermen on the

1088
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,400
susquehanna who had a good view of it

1089
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:20,880
even though there was a distance they

1090
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,119
noticed that it looked like a man

1091
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,400
being pulled up into the into the uh

1092
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,520
into the craft so uh

1093
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:32,800
i did not know that about oh yeah yeah

1094
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,000
you know this it's interesting butch and

1095
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:37,280
i have been looking into

1096
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:40,640
this together since 2013

1097
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:43,760
now butch you know i had looked at it

1098
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,040
earlier on my own

1099
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:47,680
and got frustrated with nobody was

1100
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,480
helping us

1101
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,560
butch looked into it several years

1102
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,760
before that

1103
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,240
but we finally got together in 2013 and

1104
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,319
started putting our heads together

1105
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:58,319
and in the meantime we've gotten a lot

1106
00:44:02,950 --> 00:43:59,440
of information

1107
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:02,960
butch was able to contact

1108
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:08,160
the independent alt i mean uh

1109
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,400
the independent doctor did the actual

1110
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:12,000
autopsy

1111
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,119
for the state and uh he got the full

1112
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,280
report

1113
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,400
so um maybe you should uh you and bush

1114
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,000
would write a book about this well

1115
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:24,720
this is going in my next book it is oh

1116
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,119
okay

1117
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,680
yeah we are we're going to publish this

1118
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:29,280
in the next book

1119
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:32,880
uh the david eckhart

1120
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,560
abduction and encounters uh which are

1121
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,880
have picked up again

1122
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,200
that's going in the book as well so

1123
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,880
there's gonna be a lot in this

1124
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,640
well uh that's gonna be another one of

1125
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:45,920
your books that i'm gonna have i have

1126
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:48,240
all your books anyway

1127
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:50,800
yeah this one we're i'm gonna kind of

1128
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,440
open it up for the um

1129
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:55,680
you know including cases that i have

1130
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:56,480
worked on

1131
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,760
with people uh some personal encounters

1132
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:01,200
i've had

1133
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:05,119
plus uh encounters i have gotten

1134
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,640
from uh from experiencers who sent these

1135
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:09,680
to me

1136
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,480
and who i have talked to about them so

1137
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:12,960
yeah

1138
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,800
this this todd sees incident and the uh

1139
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:19,280
and what a lot of going on with david is

1140
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,200
gonna be in there so uh

1141
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:22,800
there's gonna be a lot of stuff i've

1142
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,240
never talked about before

1143
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:28,400
i'm kind of coming clean with a lot of

1144
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,839
things so uh

1145
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,359
all right looking forward to it should

1146
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:32,960
be interesting yeah

1147
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:35,839
you think it's going to be this year oh

1148
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:36,240
yeah

1149
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:39,440
i'm going to try to get it out oh god i

1150
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:40,400
don't know

1151
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,520
i i'd like to have it out within

1152
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:46,720
by the time summer but i don't know well

1153
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,520
hopefully i can i can do it i'm i'm

1154
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:50,800
trying to

1155
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,079
uh get some time free so i can you know

1156
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,319
start putting more stuff in it

1157
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,400
but uh it's it's been a bit of a

1158
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,599
struggle so far

1159
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,520
but hopefully i get through it quick

1160
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,750
so yeah you know that's gonna be that's

1161
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:07,119
gonna be something a little different

1162
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:07,680
from me

1163
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,200
because uh i i have never really

1164
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,240
written a whole lot about the uh about

1165
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:15,760
the alien phenomena

1166
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,800
but uh i decided you know

1167
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,359
it's time to do it because it's you know

1168
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:23,280
i've been involved with david for almost

1169
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:24,800
10 years now and

1170
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:28,079
uh of course with butch and i looking

1171
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:31,760
into a lot of this uh strange

1172
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:34,400
alien related phenomena ufo phenomena

1173
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,880
for

1174
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,440
several years now plus we've had other

1175
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,680
cases together as well

1176
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,760
uh it's time to put some of this out

1177
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,040
there well where

1178
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:46,400
your state pennsylvania is like uh nuts

1179
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,589
you know it it really is i i i know

1180
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:55,359
people get tired of me talking about it

1181
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:56,000
but

1182
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:00,720
is the deal with pennsylvania

1183
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,520
you know we have um well of course you

1184
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,560
know stan's been

1185
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:06,480
stan gordon's been standing yeah

1186
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:08,079
reporting here

1187
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,599
for over 50 years now uh you know out

1188
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:13,359
there where he's at in westmoreland

1189
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:14,880
county

1190
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:17,920
the northern part of the uh the

1191
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:21,680
chestnut ridge and uh

1192
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:24,319
it it's the the fact that all that

1193
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,040
phenomena

1194
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:27,760
happens out there and then there are

1195
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:31,040
other hot spots in pennsylvania as well

1196
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,920
you know it just it doesn't seem to wane

1197
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:35,760
off it just seems to be

1198
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,000
increasing and that the type of

1199
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:39,760
phenomena

1200
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,559
seem to increase as well even though it

1201
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,359
is something

1202
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,760
that has been part of the state

1203
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:47,440
historically

1204
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:50,720
we do get a lot of uh flaps

1205
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:53,839
of certain anomalies you know

1206
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:56,720
at times you know well i i especially i

1207
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,790
nuts like you said in pennsylvania

1208
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,319
especially yeah i mean uh

1209
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:07,040
you know stan wrote extensively about

1210
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,240
that for a year

1211
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,920
you know about all the different

1212
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,920
sighting reports that you know got and

1213
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:13,200
of course butch

1214
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:16,960
knew about that as well so it

1215
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,440
you know it was interesting that all

1216
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,440
those reports started coming in but you

1217
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:24,079
know there was a lot of other phenomena

1218
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,280
attached to that as well of course the

1219
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,680
the bigfoot sightings that were attached

1220
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:31,839
to these ufo sightings around that

1221
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,480
period

1222
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,720
yeah and they still they still happen

1223
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:36,559
yeah that's that's one of the really

1224
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:37,359
interesting

1225
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,720
aspects of ufo and bigfoot

1226
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,640
which i i definitely believe there's a

1227
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:44,160
connection definitely

1228
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:47,359
no i do too i mean i have work cases

1229
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:51,760
nationwide where people have seen

1230
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:55,520
bigfoot and ufos at the same time

1231
00:49:03,829 --> 00:48:59,920
i i reported on a habituation

1232
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,839
area up in uh the north coast of nova

1233
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:04,559
scotia

1234
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:07,920
for a couple years uh the

1235
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:11,839
gentleman has since passed but

1236
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,359
he he used to tell me about

1237
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:18,160
all these bigfoot that were he would see

1238
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,440
when the weather got

1239
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,079
good you know became clear up there and

1240
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,559
he would see these groups of bigfoot

1241
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,559
and he was sketching these things and

1242
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:28,559
telling me of the evidence and stuff he

1243
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,359
was finding but he was also telling me

1244
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:32,559
about

1245
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:35,760
these large circular

1246
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,880
shaped ufos and

1247
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,960
he also had several encounters with

1248
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:42,079
these things

1249
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,520
but he did tell me one day about the uh

1250
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:47,520
he had a large field across the road

1251
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:50,319
from from his home he had a farm

1252
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:55,359
and he noticed a a glass-like

1253
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:58,559
large circular uh ufo

1254
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,839
right that descended and

1255
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,920
was hovering above the field of just a

1256
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:06,240
few feet above the field

1257
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:09,839
and he saw a bigfoot descend from it

1258
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,040
as well as a being

1259
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,160
that had feet that he later took

1260
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,119
photographs of the prince uh it looked

1261
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:21,359
like a large turkey foot

1262
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,800
but the three uh the three long toes

1263
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,000
this thing was almost 20

1264
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,280
inches wide so uh

1265
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,079
this is in nova scotia this was in the

1266
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:34,640
north coast of nova scotia yeah

1267
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:42,710
oh my god i guess about

1268
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,520
five six seven years ago i don't know

1269
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,359
the i forget the exact dates

1270
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,040
but it was something i was looking into

1271
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,640
for about two years

1272
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,800
that's not too long ago that's very yeah

1273
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,800
yeah yeah you know and

1274
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,119
but you know there has been a lot of

1275
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,040
strange ufo activity

1276
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,440
in nova scotia in in the atlantic

1277
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,400
maritimes

1278
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,960
it's just not talked about a lot no you

1279
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:06,319
don't hear too much about it no

1280
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:10,559
no but you uh yeah there's um

1281
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,319
yeah that was going on so um

1282
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,680
and i i think the gentleman himself

1283
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:20,559
was was physically affected by it as

1284
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:21,760
well

1285
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:25,440
he had developed a few strange

1286
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:29,680
diseases that were quite explainable

1287
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,880
and uh i haven't heard from him i

1288
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,359
and i just assume he passed away you

1289
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,160
know i i did try to check into him

1290
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,520
never got any responses and uh i believe

1291
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:43,440
that was the case

1292
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:46,240
wow you know it sort of reminds me of

1293
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:46,640
that

1294
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:49,520
case in france in 73 also back in

1295
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,400
november

1296
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,160
whether there were two witnesses that

1297
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,839
saw they

1298
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:55,280
they they were in a vehicle they were

1299
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:57,920
parked and they saw a ufo land

1300
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:01,839
also and and from you know from this

1301
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,119
circular it was large circular metallic

1302
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:07,599
there was a uh sort of a door that

1303
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:08,480
opened and

1304
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:12,079
from from it at first they were emerged

1305
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,839
two little uh entities you know small

1306
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,520
and i'm gonna say grays i don't think

1307
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:19,359
they described it as grey but they were

1308
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,319
short

1309
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:22,960
kind of large-headed and then after that

1310
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:23,680
they were

1311
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,880
came two tall human-like beings from the

1312
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:29,200
same ufo okay together

1313
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,559
long-haired blonde hair and then

1314
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,559
the weirdest part after these came out

1315
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,680
they were walking around

1316
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,599
another being came out and stood by the

1317
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:39,280
door and this being they

1318
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,880
according to the witnesses the french

1319
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:42,480
witnesses it looked like

1320
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:45,520
like a great ape it's yeah

1321
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,559
yeah i think i remember that yeah yeah

1322
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:50,400
maybe i would i sent you that one but

1323
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,839
you may have you know

1324
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,760
this is something david has been telling

1325
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:55,760
me about recently you know

1326
00:53:03,030 --> 00:52:59,599
the uh the encounters in his home have

1327
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,040
again picked up i mean it is really

1328
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:05,119
picked up he's been getting

1329
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,359
able to obtain some photographs though

1330
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:09,119
it's not the easiest thing the world do

1331
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:10,240
because

1332
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:14,000
they they have destroyed a lot of his

1333
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,400
equipment but he's been telling me

1334
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:20,559
that the type of beings that have been

1335
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:23,359
showing up this time around

1336
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:26,000
have been much varied as compared to

1337
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:26,800
what it was

1338
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:30,640
he was getting 10 years ago at that time

1339
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,240
he was getting a small graze and

1340
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,119
reptilians there would be a couple

1341
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,720
reptilians that would come through and

1342
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,920
in fact

1343
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:42,000
the reptilians were the ones in charge

1344
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,760
of these abductions with the yemenis

1345
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:44,880
family

1346
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:49,680
but now the beings that are showing up

1347
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,440
are mostly

1348
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:56,640
what look like humanoid hybrids

1349
00:54:02,790 --> 00:53:59,760
are human hybrids okay and that

1350
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:02,800
occasionally a a reptilian will

1351
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:06,800
accompany them but he said he gets as

1352
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:09,920
much as a dozen of these human-like

1353
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:10,559
beings

1354
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:14,640
come through he's in pennsylvania

1355
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:18,079
he's in pensacola pensacola he's down in

1356
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:18,880
florida

1357
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,800
whole case

1358
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,640
and he's been in the same area he's been

1359
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:26,480
in different homes

1360
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,880
but uh these things tend to follow him

1361
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:29,920
around

1362
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:33,200
and in fact his his family

1363
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,640
uh his daughter who got married and and

1364
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,040
moved to houston for a time

1365
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,079
they were uh they were

1366
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,960
visiting her as well uh her and her

1367
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,520
husband

1368
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,799
so it's

1369
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,640
you know you know we've talked you know

1370
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:52,720
we've talked for years about

1371
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:55,280
these encounters being a generational

1372
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,799
type thing where

1373
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,799
other members of the family past and

1374
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,319
present would

1375
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:02,799
would experience this similar type of

1376
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,079
phenomena

1377
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:06,480
and uh it's definitely the case and hit

1378
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:09,920
in as far as the eckharts go

1379
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,720
well and now it does it seems to follow

1380
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:14,400
all the members of the family

1381
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,119
yeah when there's a family involved you

1382
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,119
know it's like and for generations too

1383
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:22,319
you know that yeah

1384
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,599
it's a tough situation um you know

1385
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:27,520
there have been a few other aspects as

1386
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:30,400
for as what's going on with david which

1387
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:31,440
i had just

1388
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:34,400
found out about within the last week now

1389
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:34,799
i might

1390
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:37,760
i can't say a whole lot about it now but

1391
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:38,640
david was

1392
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,760
uh he was telling me and describing some

1393
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:43,599
of this new stuff

1394
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:46,720
and i i have been talking with my my

1395
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:47,440
team about

1396
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,880
it and uh we're just basically trying to

1397
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:52,640
figure out everything that's been going

1398
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:53,040
on

1399
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:58,160
but i i will say this it has to do with

1400
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:01,760
uh sexual encounters

1401
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:05,040
and hybrid children okay all right

1402
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,640
so you get a little bit of an idea of

1403
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,720
what i'm talking about but

1404
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:11,200
it's uh you know this is something that

1405
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:12,799
we have heard about

1406
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,559
with other cases over the years

1407
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,799
where uh what brett oldham you know you

1408
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,559
know who brett oldham is and his uh

1409
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:22,000
encounters

1410
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,280
with what he said were was a child

1411
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,319
that he knew was his uh you hear more

1412
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:30,160
and more about that

1413
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:34,240
uh and uh you know it seems to me

1414
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:38,400
that this is a way of

1415
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:41,920
i guess forcing or uh

1416
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,640
intimidating these these people

1417
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:46,559
experiencers

1418
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:49,680
uh to continue to cooperate with them

1419
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,799
by uh by having children

1420
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,040
hybrid children and i i don't know

1421
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:56,880
sometimes i'm afraid they're

1422
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:59,520
they're gonna they're slowly replacing

1423
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:00,799
the

1424
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:05,839
singularity

1425
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:09,359
aspect a lot is i think is real

1426
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:13,119
uh i think the technology has merged

1427
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,040
with uh you know with the human

1428
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:20,559
and it's starting to

1429
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:24,319
possibly uh integrate with

1430
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,079
us as well uh i do write about that

1431
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,280
in this book you know also because uh

1432
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,119
there are there is a lot of evidence

1433
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:35,280
that that is actually happening

1434
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:39,280
so to what extent it's going to

1435
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:43,520
you know we're going to experience uh

1436
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:46,240
you know how far has it gotten already

1437
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,799
right

1438
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,960
what are the implications i mean who

1439
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:50,880
knows

1440
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,960
uh you've got several books out your

1441
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:59,359
latest was the ufos over florida

1442
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:00,720
do you have anything planned for the

1443
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:03,280
future well like i said earlier

1444
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:06,839
and i'm thinking of doing the

1445
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:11,839
2016 through whatever we get in 2019 of

1446
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,960
humanoid encounters well you know my my

1447
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,319
database is open to you

1448
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:18,880
always so you know thank you i know yeah

1449
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:21,599
that is a great source of

1450
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:24,720
information definitely cases

1451
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:27,839
uh so that's one of my plans plus

1452
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:31,119
maybe i'm trying to do another one

1453
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:36,319
from personal encounters and personal

1454
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,799
investigations i got a couple things

1455
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:40,640
going on i don't you know it's just been

1456
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:41,760
hard to

1457
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:45,200
for me lately yeah yeah well when you

1458
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,520
get

1459
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:48,240
when you're retired and able to kind of

1460
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:49,359
get out there and do it

1461
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,799
you know i you know when i when i went

1462
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,880
on disability and was able to get more

1463
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:55,839
time

1464
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:58,559
yeah though i was kind of limited i you

1465
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,880
know

1466
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,799
it it doesn't make a big difference

1467
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,240
where you can

1468
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,440
kind of work on this uh at all hours

1469
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:07,680
and believe me that sometimes it seems

1470
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,480
like it's a 24-hour thing

1471
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,480
definitely because right now i'm still

1472
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:14,079
working and

1473
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:17,200
sometimes i i work overtime a lot

1474
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:24,150
so albert thanks again for joining me

1475
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:25,200
and being on the show

1476
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,799
it's been it's great talking to you

1477
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,720
again you're welcome i'm glad you gotta

1478
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,119
we gotta connect a lot more

1479
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:33,760
yeah we do i just been uh like i said

1480
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:35,839
and i don't really do too many of these

1481
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,040
yeah i know i know

1482
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,280
but it's been you know my pleasure being

1483
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:43,200
in in your show

1484
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,640
well we'll talk soon okay okay so uh

1485
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:47,599
this is it

1486
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:52,000
of yourself man i'll talk to you later

1487
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,920
all right now bye bye so listeners can

1488
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,760
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1489
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,359
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1490
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,760
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1491
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:03,200
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1492
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:06,480
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1493
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,240
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1494
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:10,240
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1495
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,359
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1496
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:13,359
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1497
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,359
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1498
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:17,599
i once again thank alberto rosales for

1499
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:19,119
joining me this evening

1500
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:21,359
and i want to thank you for listening to

1501
01:00:33,710 --> 01:00:22,319
the show

1502
01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:40,090
[Music]

1503
01:00:54,839 --> 01:01:00,580
so